In this episode, hosts Cari and Dana sit down with Nicole Leffer — AI expert, trainer, and advisor — for a candid conversation on how marketers can finally move past “lazy” tactics and start using AI as a true strategic partner.
Nicole’s career path is anything but typical: from national magazine editor to e-commerce chocolate founder to SaaS marketing leader, she now equips marketing teams with the skills to turn ChatGPT, Gemini, and other tools into engines of efficiency and quality.
This fast-paced, real talk episode cuts through the hype to show what AI can (and can’t) do for marketers today — and why foundational marketing knowledge is more important than ever.
Some key takeaways include:
The difference between using AI for speed vs. using it for strategy
Why strong marketing fundamentals are more valuable than ever in the AI era
Which generation (“zennials”) may actually have the edge in AI adoption
Why you shouldn't let an AI agent loose in your Instacart account
Nicole’s favorite personal use cases — from travel planning to house hunting